Could we provide a replacement? Perhaps Shift or Alt? I fear Ctrl/Cmd might be too overloaded on Macs already.

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Agree.

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~shtrom has made progress towards this in the build/Docker improvements we've just merged, but after discussion we realised that we need to be careful to minimise the impact on anyone upgrading an existing install.

These configure, build and Docker changes have now been merged into master. Thanks for your work here ~shtrom!

pdf.js can be put into bower.json. That's one less submodule.

Just wanted to note that ~shtrom looked at this and it's a little more complicated than on first glance. We cannot use pdfjs-dist at the moment because the viewer.html that we rely on is not included. See https://github.com/mozilla/pdf.js/issues/5609.

On Thu 27 Jun 2024 at 03:38:53 +0000, ~sturm wrote:

The key is that we would manage that automatically, rather than making that the user's problem to coordinate. From their perspective, they run one command and the system is ready to go.

Yep, that's be great! gmg serve

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"~shtrom" outgoing@sr.ht writes:

Isn't this what the lazyserver does?

Nah, lazyserver runs a single web application process with CELERY_ALWAYS_EAGER=true, causing the web application to block while the transcoding occurs in the same process.

In my experience, running a separate processing server allows to not hold up the HTTP request while the processing is done. However, if the web server (I think it's werkzeug) can spin off parallel tasks for the processing as needed, then it might be sufficient.

Yes, that's what I'm imagining - some kind of subprocess that run in the background while the web application continues to serve HTTP requests.

The key is that we would manage that automatically, rather than making that the user's problem to coordinate. From their perspective, they run one command and the system is ready to go.

On Thu 27 Jun 2024 at 00:17:25 +0000, ~sturm wrote:

After helping numerous people install MediaGoblin, my feeling is that PostgreSQL is an unnecessary complication, and that SQLite is nearly always a better choice. I suggest we move the documentation about PostgreSQL to the "Further Considerations for Production Deployments" section.

Agreed.

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Isn't this what the lazyserver does?

In my experience, running a separate processing server allows to not hold up the HTTP request while the processing is done. However, if the web server (I think it's werkzeug) can spin off parallel tasks for the processing as needed, then it might be sufficient.

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I agree. This is not the correct way of using autotools. Instead the configure script should just detect that all the necessary dependencies are present, and the Makefile merely use them.

This is the pattern I followed in my refactor, and their various iterations, the most recent being https://git.sr.ht/~shtrom/mediagoblin/tree/refactor-configure-py311-bookworm